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Costa Rica lawmakers visit Denver to get a “taste” of legalized Cannabis

(Timothy Morales / Facebook)

(Timothy Morales / Facebook)

October 16th, 2015 (ICR News) A group of five Costa Rican lawmakers visited Denver, Colorado recently to see what the legal cannabis industry looks like first-hand.

 

Reps. Gonzalo Ramirez of the Costa Rican Renovation Party, Paulina Ramirez and Juan Luis Jimenez Succar (PLN), Jose Alfaro of the Libertarian Movement (ML), and Johnny Lewis of the Social Christian Unity Party (PUSC) visited the city, where cannabis is legal for both medicinal and recreational use, on October 1-6.

 

“We wanted to extend an invitation to them to see how the industry works since the 2010 legalization of medicinal use and the 2012 legalization of recreational use.  They could see first hand how dispensaries, laboratories and [growing operations] work,” Gerald Murray of the Costa Rica Medical Cannabis Movement, told CRHoy.com.

 

Murray’s organization, which paid for the trip with supporters’ donations, hopes to convince lawmakers debating a medical marijuana bill in the country’s Legislative Assembly to consider a model more similar to that of the one in Denver, instead of the strict “industrial” medical cannabis bill being considered.

 

The current bill seeks to legalize and strictly regulate cannabis-derived medicines and medical treatments, including tablets, suppositories, ointments, sprays, patches, and injections amongst others.  The smoking of marijuana however would remain off-limits.

 

“They saw that a regulated industry with tax works,” Murray said.

 

Support and Opposition

 

The bill – in its current form – has some surprising supporters, but opposition also remains strong.

 

Costa Rica’s National Academy of Medicine categorically denounced the bill in June, saying that the medicinal uses of marijuana and its derivatives are “very limited,” adding that the “potential benefit [of medical marijuana] is no better than conventional medications currently available and in use.”

 

The Academy also expressed its concern that the bill, if approved would open the door for legislation legalizing the use of marijuana for recreational purposes, which it said “would lead to unpredictable and negative consequences” especially in “susceptible groups” such as minors.

 

Meanwhile, the Costa Rican public health system known as CCSS and the Ministry of Health have endorsed the bill with conditions, including the prohibition of recreational use.  CCSS has gone as far as to say that such treatments would be covered and provided to patients free of charge.

 

Perhaps the bill’s most surprising endorsement so far has come from Costa Rica’s Lutheran Church. In June, the president of Costa Rica’s Lutheran Church described marijuana as a “plant of God,” while expressing his approval of medicinal use of the plant, adding that “[marijuana] should not be demonized, the plant itself is harmless and can have a proper use.”

 

A 2013 survey conducted by the School of Statistics at the University of Costa Rica (UCR) found that 52.9% of Costa Ricans said they would support medical use of marijuana, though the same survey found that just 15% of Costa Ricans would support blanket legalization for recreational use.

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  • Roberto

    Who paid for the trip?

    • http://insidecostarica.com/ Timothy Williams

      Good point. We just updated the fourth paragraph in the story: “Murray’s organization, which paid for the trip with supporters’ donations, hopes to convince lawmakers debating a medical marijuana bill in the country’s Legislative Assembly to consider a model more similar to that of the one in Denver, instead of the strict “industrial” medical cannabis bill being considered.”

      • Andrew

        They then visited a Dunkin Donuts and split three dozen glazed. Can you say “Los Munchies”?
        In their defense, Costa Rican doughnuts DO suck.

        • dr meno

          the weed here sucks too.

  • dr meno

    bring me back a four finger lid.

    • Karen Mata

      As one of the few baby boomers who didn’t inhale, or even try it for that matter, my take is this.

      Look at when the baby boomers started to assume political office, including the highest political office. (Pun intended)

      Are we a better nation for it? Can you see the logic of their decisions? Really?

      “We must pass this bill so we can find out what is in it.”

      If you can see the logic there, well you get my point.

      • wm97

        Why don’t you explain the good we achieve when we put people in jail for marijuana?

        The fact is that, according to all the available research, we could simply erase the word “marijuana” everywhere it appears in the law — so there are no laws at all — and we would still be better off than we are now. See “Major Studies of Drugs and Drug Policy” for the evidence on that.

        • Karen Mata

          If I can take the liberty of a direct quote from you.

          “The fact is that according to all the available research, we could simply erase the word “marijuana” everywhere it appears in the law–so there are no laws at all–and we would still be better off than we are now.”

          I rest my case.

          Keep toking pall, and enjoy all the naturaleza of Jaco.

          • wm97

            You rest your case on what? Did you have some actual research or anything like that, or were you just talking out your butt?

            I hope you have some idea what your last line means, because it doesn’t mean anything to me.

          • Karen Mata

            Just keep talking.

            It resolves all doubt as exactly what we’re dealing with.

            I would try logic but I could see from your first statement that logic was a nonstarter with you.

            I have the best untainted research. The history of the US presidency from 1992, as they’re all admitted drug abusers.

          • wm97

            Is that really the best you can do?

          • SDPUS

            So the premise of your argument is don’t use weed or you may become President? Abuse seems to be a very subjective term in your rhetoric. Locking people up for long periods of time for nonviolent behavior is the epitome of abuse. Torture is certainly radical abuse. I am not sure you can accurately label a past Presidents personal experimentation with marijuana as abuse. You might really want to take a look at scholarly research, and see which of the aforementioned really has severe and catastrophic negative impacts on society. The drug war is just another faulty war, based on faulty research, and purely meant to segregate many, while enriching a few. It also is a war that most likely kept you employed, and made you feel like a Patriot in fighting it. Too bad this fight isn’t really noble at all. You may want to take a look at what the United Nations and the Global Commission on Drug Policy have recently come out with. It is a viewpoint for humanity, not against it: http://issuu.com/igarape/docs/gcodp_report_drugcontrol_total_onli/1?e=11406483/30791669

          • Karen Mata

            You make a rather coherent response. (No, not totally …I’ll get to that)

            Concerning the presidents, two of the three have admitted abusing drugs to some degree. In his mind I’m sure Clinton didn’t inhale, lie to congress or face impeachment…Jim Willie, phd., has some extremely damning evidence concerning drug use of all three..go to his site and send him an email… At very least though we have two admitting.

            I fail to see where I advocated locking anyone up. You stated that’s the epitome of abuse…(wow maybe a college education??) Nice way of tying together your argument, but once again…I never made that statement…moving on

            Many question research as it seems that often times the conclusions reached support exactly the position of those who funded it.

            After 40 years the Dutch are rethinking their drug laws. The laws probably haven’t been a total failure, but the Dutch are just a docile nation whose only achievement over that time frame is becoming the largest welfare state on the planet.
            google, “Dutch rethink welfare state newgeography.com”
            Additionally, their king has recently stated, “the welfare state is gone,… the welfare state is unsustainable.”

            It’s not that the US is headed in that direction, but rather we’re there.

            What’s next? Maybe we can revisit a well know cycle of Democracy?

            It starts with bondage to
            Spiritual Faith
            Courage
            Liberty
            Abundance
            Selfishness
            Complacency
            Apathy
            Dependence
            and back to bondage.

            Your final point concerning the drug war, “that kept me employed and made me feel like a Patriot fighting it.”

            That honestly makes me question your sanity. I credit your able attempt though, sir.

          • wm97

            If you had it, you could link it. We are done here.

          • Karen Mata

            You’re still on a topic from several weeks ago?

            my response to SDPUS covers your questions

        • Karen Mata

          I’m sure you’ve heard the old saying wm, if you haven’t forgotten it.

          Sometimes it’s better to keep your mouth shut and let them think you’re stupid rather than open it and remove all doubt.

          • wm97

            Thanks for the research to back up your point. You did have some, didn’t you?

          • disgusted

            WM97 Reading your comments. I mostly agree with you. However, you’re arguing with a block head who has made up her mind.
            Of all the chemicals we intake into our bodies. marihuana is the least of our problems. We made it into a butter for those dying in hospice to help ease the discomfort and pain. This was 30 years ago. So what those who want it for recreational purposes, Karen! any less dangerous than processed cigs or alcohol ? So now our government declared it illegal… So we have locked lock thousands, and created a war in our ghettos and elsewhere. Where does it end? Legalize it all of it! stop this madness and fear mongering it will ruin the world.

          • wm97

            Take your own advice.

  • disgusted

    Funny, High in Denver The head line suggest they all got to smoke a little of the green weed..

    “to get a “taste” of legalized Cannabis”.

    I would like to see it legal here not only for medical reason. Like Uruguay has done.

    • http://insidecostarica.com/ Timothy Williams

      We actually put “taste” in quotes so as to NOT indicate that any of the lawmakers “partook.” We have no idea if they did or not :)

    • dr meno

      Exactly, and their economy is doing much better for that.

    • wm97

      I have news for you. In Uruguay it is legal for “recreational”.

      In addition, I will wager that you can’t even give a good objective definition of the difference between “medical” and “recreational”. Suppose we have two stoners sitting on a couch hitting a bong. They both claim they are “medical” but we know one of them isn’t. Give us the clear objective criteria that you would use to tell the difference, such that any jury that heard the case would reach the same decision.

      If you offer the common idea that they must have a “serious illness”, be advised that there is no legal definition for either “serious” or “illness”, let alone “serious illness.” If you say that it should be restricted to specific diseases like cancer, be advised that every male is born with a tiny spot of cancer.

      • disgusted

        WM97, Have you read my comments.. I know what Uruguay has done legalize it and encouraging the growth there..Ecuador decided to decriminalize it there in 2010. My friend in Cuenca said it everywhere and common. CR is just too stupid here other than tax us more for less and pay huge consultant fees and borrow money ..

  • Tom Keeling

    Why would officials actually have to go to Denver. Easy to get a John Denver album and a bag in a diplomatic pouch and fire em up. Sounds like a vacation excuse to me. Just sayin’.

  • wm97

    The question of what to do about drugs is not a new one. Over the last 100 years there have been numerous major government commissions around the world that have studied the drug laws and made recommendations for changes. You can find the full text of all of them at http://druglibrary.org/schaffer under Major Studies of Drugs and Drug Policy.

    They all reached remarkably similar conclusions, no matter who did them, or where, or when, or why. They all agreed that the current laws were based on ignorance and nonsense, and that the current policy does more harm than good, no matter what you assume about the dangers of drugs. You don’t have to take my word for that. Read them yourself.

    If you are new to the collection, start with Licit and Illicit Drugs at http://druglibrary.org/schaffer/Library/studies/cu/cumenu.htm That is the best overall review of the drug problem ever written. If you only read one book on the subject, make it that one. It will give you a good summary of what you would learn if you read all the other major reports.

    In 1973, President Nixon’s US National Commission on Marihuana and Drug Abuse completed the largest study of the drug laws ever done. At the end of their study, they said the real drug problem was not marijuana, or heroin, or cocaine. The real drug problem, they said, was the ignorance of our public officials who keep spouting off with solutions but have never read the most basic research on the subject.

    In a perfect illustration of their point, Nixon refused to read his own commission’s report. The full text can be found at http://druglibrary.org/schaffer/Library/studies/nc/ncmenu.htm

  • wm97

    It should be obvious to anyone that marijuana is big business. By some estimates, it is about the same size as the beer business, about $100 billion per year. It should also be obvious that it won’t be going away any time soon.

    Therefore, there are only three choices as to who will control the market, make all the rules for production and sales, enforce all the age limits and labeling rules, and spend all the tens of billions that come from the trade. The choices are:

    1) Government, with proper regulations and taxes to address problems.

    2) Private business, with proper regulations and taxes to address problems.

    3) Organized crime, with no regulations or taxes to address problems.

    We have chosen organized crime to have a complete monopoly on the trade. Anyone in favor of the current laws need to explain why they think this gives us the most cost-effective control over any related problems.

    • dr meno

      the fourth choice is to grow your own, for personal use, with out any corporate, or government or mafia influence. The USA took control of the cannnibus market when the lid went from 10 dollars to 100 dollars. Now the USA controls 90% of the heroin market. What a great group on guys, ehhhh? They should have no hands in the trade.

      • wm97

        People in California have had the option of growing their own for almost 20 years now. The vast majority of people simply don’t have the time, inclination, knowledge, or resources to do it. That’s why there are thousands of dispensaries in California. People growing their own is a nice idea, but it doesn’t really address very much of the huge trade in cannabis.

        • dr meno

          cultivation as far as I know is still illegal. Well maybe in Humbolt. BUT I escaped tyranny 2 CR 10 years ago. So I may be out of date.

          • wm97

            Cultivation has been legal in California since 1996.

          • wm97

            Cultivation is not illegal in California as long as you have a doctor’s note.

    • SDPUS

      In only its second year of existence, marijuana tax revenue has almost doubled that of alcohol in the state of Colorado: http://time.com/4037604/colorado-marijuana-tax-revenue/

      • SDPUS

        That fact should clearly tell you something right there!

  • wm97

    Marijuana was outlawed for two major reasons. The first was because “All Mexicans are crazy and marijuana is what makes them crazy. The second was the fear that heroin addiction would lead to the use of marijuana – exactly the opposite of the modern “gateway” nonsense.

    Only one MD testified at the hearings for the Marihuana Tax Act of 1937. The representative of the American Medical Association said there was no evidence that marijuana was a dangerous drug and no reason for the law. He pointed out that it was used in hundreds of common medicines at the time, with no significant problems. In response, the committee told him that, if he wasn’t going to cooperate, he should shut up and leave.

    The only other “expert” to testify was James C. Munch, a psychologist. His sole claim to fame was that he had injected marijuana directly into the brains of 300 dogs and two of them died. When they asked him what he concluded from this, he said he didn’t know what to conclude because he wasn’t a dog psychologist. Mr. Munch also testified in court, under oath, that marijuana could make your fangs grow six inches long and drip with blood. He also said that, when he tried it, it turned him into a bat. He then described how he flew around the room for two hours.

    Mr. Munch was the only “expert” in the US who thought marijuana should be illegal, so they appointed him US Official Expert on marijuana, where he served and guided policy for 25 years.

    If you read the transcripts of the hearings, one question is asked more than any other: “What is this stuff?” It is quite apparent that Congress didn’t even know what they were voting on. The law was shoved through by a small group of lunatics with no real awareness by anyone else of what was happening.

    See http://druglibrary.org/schaffer/History/whiteb1.htm for an entertaining short history of the marijuana laws.

    See http://druglibrary.org/schaffer/hemp/taxact/taxact.htm for the complete transcripts of the hearings for the Marihuana Tax Act of 1937.

  • wm97

    “The Academy also expressed its concern that the bill, if approved would open the door for legislation legalizing the use of marijuana for recreational purposes, which it said “would lead to unpredictable and negative consequences” especially in “susceptible groups” such as minors.”

    We have had tens of millions of people smoking tens of millions of pounds of marijuana in the US for the last fifty years. We have had thousands of stores openly selling marijuana to any adult who wants it in California for more than ten years. In fact, California has more marijuana stores than any of the states where it is “legal” and the rules in California are looser than they are in any other state.

    Marijuana use by teens is now lower than it was when the law was passed.

    What major pot-induced calamity are they expecting that hasn’t happened already?

  • Tomaza Jarquin

    aside from the jokes, in sept in oregon i toured a fabrica of over 150,000 sq feet. they had a lab and an oil extraction process machine set up i was told they paid $150,000 for. while high THC production product is now growing because recreational is growing a large amount of effort and money flows to high Cabinanoid low THC product which is used very effectively medically. end of life, chronic illness, and cancer treatment use is valid and important. many people like to joke and have no experience with the medical side. i would guess close to half USA doctors approve of high THC product to be used for type A personalities in place of other psychoactive drugs like Zoloft. so ha ha. love the jokes. but don’t forget you might like to have the option while you are dying painfully.

  • prdatki

    Of course Marijuana should be legalized and taxed, what should be illegal is Trips paid for by Tax payers for Politicians and Appointed officials. They should pay for their own trips, food, cell phones, car and any thing else!

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